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Agreed

JDSampo wrote: or we just don't don't care (very likely).

You do not care. They pull all the 'obese' yank facts and SCARE us into healthy eating.

The thing is, a McD use to be SMALLER, and a typical cheese burger was 600 calories, where-as today it is at the 900 calorie mark. They are super-sizing everything, but most people are to stupid to realise that a bigger portion = more calories = makes you fatter.

Europe has gone quite MAD i tell thee, MAD MAD MAD. I cant even light up in a Pub now, or 99.999% of pubs/bars across euro-land.

The only good thing from McD's healthy drive crap, is the burger flippers who serve you are not so bloody spotty any more...

Psycho^ Milkman wrote:

JDSampo wrote: or we just don't don't care (very likely).

You do not care. They pull all the 'obese' yank facts and SCARE us into healthy eating.

The thing is, a McD use to be SMALLER, and a typical cheese burger was 600 calories, where-as today it is at the 900 calorie mark. They are super-sizing everything, but most people are to stupid to realise that a bigger portion = more calories = makes you fatter.

Europe has gone quite MAD i tell thee, MAD MAD MAD. I cant even light up in a Pub now, or 99.999% of pubs/bars across euro-land.

The only good thing from McD's healthy drive crap, is the burger flippers who serve you are not so bloody spotty any more...

I was really really really surprised when they passed the smoking ban over there. Its slowly catching on over here. I can understand in restaurants but in a pub or bar? Seriously?

We have had No smoking areas in pubs for years, pubs HAD to have these areas if they served food. A few years ago (my aunty managed a pub) pubs that sold food which had to have a no-smoking area, had to change the air at 30 atmospheres or whatever per hour. Basically the air in the pub was changed 30 times or more in 1 hours, if the pub did not do this then they could not have no smoking areas, could not sell bar food, slow spiral into bankrupcy...

If you EVER get in the postion of having "no-smoking in public places", even if you do not smoke, FIGHT IT tooth and nail. You will be suprised how f***ing bad pubs/bars smell without the cigerette smoke masking the stale sweat and piss smells. Going to a pub was a nice past time, sitting in a comfortable atmosphere enjoying a pint/beer or two, or three, with friends, and now it is horrid.

I have to say I disagree. My wife has asthma and I'm a quitter so I CAN'T STAND being anywhere near cig smoke. I've lived in New York and Massachusetts for the last few years and both states have smoking bans. Now I can go have a beer and catch a band without gagging. It's all about me

I'm assuming Texas will be the last to ban smoking although some counties in Texas have banned drinking in bars so you never know.

Milky, I suppose you could always head to the fringe of Euro-land and go to Prague. Smoking in pubs while noshing on pork seems to be a national past-time there.

--JD

http://www.no-smoke.org/pdf/100ordlist.pdf

It looks like there are a lot of places in Texas that are 'smokefree'...



Being a non smoker or not, difficult. I think you would prefer to sit in a place where there was good ventilation that masked all the unearthly smells, in the UK the powers to be did not realise that most/all pubs have carpeting on the floor, so that would be holding spilt beer for example. When the no smoking law came out the owners of pubs did not think to deep clean their carpets whose smell was being masked by ciggy smoke. Pubs are spending heaps of money on air-fresheners and the likes, but the pubs still stink.

As for the missus having asthma, simple answer to that. Do not take her to pubs/clubs/resteraunts that permit smoking, you will find that this SAVES you money My grandfather had asthma, i had a touch of it as a child and it is horrid. They do an inhaler here now that you use once in the morning when you wake up, and it lasts you the whole day. I once took a young lady to bed and thought my performance was good as it left her breathless, then she told me she had asthma

BTW, Prague has no smoking laws. I think but dont quote me, Germany has some liberal laws. Smoking is banned everywhere (Cinema Hospitol Workplace Theaters etc) but bars and resteraunts are exempt as long as there are no smoking areas that non smokers can use if they choose to enter a smoking zone. Rather than exclude smokers and make them feel in the wrong, they have basically adopted how the UK was and given the choice to non-smokers if they want to go in a place where people smoke. Non smokers had/have the choice, Tobacco dependant people have had no choice and are persecuted because of an addiction which is not fair imho...




She floats, she is made of wood, she IS a Witch, burn her burn her...

I don't think I've ever been in a bar that had carpet on the floor. Now I know why

What the Europeans are doing now is more or less what the US was doing up until 10 years ago or so i.e., you had to provide a separate section for non-smokers. I noticed that in Vienna when I was there last year. The larger places did a really nice job of separating the smokers from the non. We avoided the problem in Prague by eating outside as much as possible.

In the US, the pressure to make bars and restaurants non-smoking has come from customers (and workers) having less tolerance as fewer and fewer people are smoking. The number of smokers in this country has dropped precipitously in the last decade.

Many restaurateurs and bar owners were worried that business would drop off if smoking wasn't allowed any more but that fear never materialized. Instead they got a whole influx of new customers who were staying away before. So as they say 'round these parts the market will correct itself.

--JD

The real answer is more beer.

JDSampo wrote:I don't think I've ever been in a bar that had carpet on the floor. Now I know why

We had two types of pub here, the carpetted one or the "spit and sawdust" type.

A spit and sawdust one was basically a pub/bar with a wooden floor, and some sawdust on it to soak up the blood (or spilt beer) depending on the 'roughness' of the pub

We have had no smoking areas within pubs for years and years, now you find the smokers all huddled up outside 'smirting'. Smerting is the new phenomena of smokers who go outside for a ciggy the end up flirting with other smokers. Smoking+Flirting = Smirting, oh how wonderful our shared language is

The no smoking in public places was born in america ! San Fran Bloody Cisco i do believe back in the late 90's, and since then the bloody Europeans have been dictating every small part of your life rather than address real issues. When i rule the world (move over Bush) i will give everyone free beer, as beer makes people happy


Ponder this:
The problem with being Democrat is that if you vote for Obama, you're sexist. And if you vote for Hilary, you're racist. Its easy being a Republican. No matter what you're retarded.

I read the other day that voting democrat is a genetic weakness...no shit *cough*

I have no political views(damned if you do and damned if you don't), South Park put it best; "No matter whose running, your only voting for a Giant Douche Bag or a Shit Sandwich."

Psycho^ Milkman wrote:
Ponder this:
The problem with being Democrat is that if you vote for Obama, you're sexist. And if you vote for Hilary, you're racist. Its easy being a Republican. No matter what you're retarded.

Either way we are always getting Pooched. The Drink more beer sounds better.

We have sawdust "pubs" here too but they're all country music joints.

JDSampo wrote:We have sawdust "pubs" here too but they're all country music joints.

with cages to keep the band safe.... playing the theme song to rawhide..

"We have both kinds of music: country and western!"

--JD

I just don't know which one would produce the better MOSH pit....