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 Post subject: Q For Quill
PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:41 pm 
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New Hampshire where the deer are bullet proof
as your profile location (I wont mention JD's as it reminds me of a certain twat)


Anyway Quill, how do you know they are bulletproof? Do you hit them and see the bullet bounce off or as i suspect you MISS and think you hit them leading you to false assumption.






:)


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Now if i was a deer and i saw you come into the woods with a chainsaw i would sh*t myself :)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:10 pm 
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Location: New Hampshire where the deer are bullet proof
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This past hunting season I was on stand with my Muzzle loader, in case you don't know what that is, it's a rifle firing a 50 cal projectile after it is loaded at the muzzle using the same loading practices like the musket. similar to the weapon used during the war where we kicked you Brits outta the neighborhood :-) (had to get that little dig in since you guys came back and layed the smack down during 1812. Burned the white house a little as I seem to recall still it didn't improve on it.:-)

Any who, My partners in the slaughter last year said over the walkie talkies that they jumped some deer, and that they were heading in my direction. Well I started to hear this train wreck of a commotion coming over my right shoulder, and this little skipper, a small doe, and a big Girl of a doe showed up but did not see me. Now the law in new Hampshire states that I could not shoot the does, only bucks.

Lo and behold a 4-6 point buck shows up to the party after the girls. He did not see me but kept moving. Telling my self that this stick is gonna sound off I tracked my target and fired. Well he had just put on the binders and shifted to the right so I think I got him just behind the front shoulder and went out through the chest. He went ass over tea kettle and I began to reload. Blood was every where and as I was reloading he put on a big red S and got up and hauled ASS!!! He jumped over some Maple sap lines and cleared the road , then made a bee line towards some upper woods. While tracking him we came across an older man who had a regular rifle and told us he saw a deer go higher up and he did not look so good. We followed a blood trail but I think he was bleeding more internally and I think he kicked the bucket in the guy's yard only to have the old guy drag him out of sight. ****Sigh *****:cry: Oh well better luck this year! Going to do Archery this year and muzzle loading and regular rifle. Who knows maybe I'll ghet a bear this year.

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Quill wrote:

similar to the weapon used during the war where we kicked you Brits outta the neighborhood :-)



ORLY !, i thought it was you and the FRENCH!, viva le FreedomFries :)


And WTF, 50cal, you hunting deer or tanks ? The legal limit here is .22, under half the size and they do the job. Mind you, you gotta make sure the deer are dead in america, always built bigger, stronger and better :)

I doubt i could hold let alone aim a 50cal rifle...


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:06 am 
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Location: New Hampshire where the deer are bullet proof
It really doesn't have that bad of a Kick. Your probably confusing the 50 Cal Sniper stuff. This is what I use:
http://www.nextag.com/50-caliber-bullet/search-html

It ws a real shame tht I lost him. would have made a great trophy.
psycho wrote:
"ORLY !, i thought it was you and the FRENCH!, viva le FreedomFries"

They weren't much help......:-)

http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/muzzleloaders.php

model #3842 is what I have. It's "forgive the pun" Loads of fun :-)

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Nice looking rifle, but it is a bit 'european' sport rifle looking going via the stock.

It is not the Kick that worries me, it is the .50cal SIZE, if i were to shoot a squirrel with that the would be nothing left to have as a trophy, a bag or red goo just does not look the same now does it :)

Anyway im a 12 gauge man myself, you can 'spray and prey' and sometimes the pidgeons fall out of the sky :)


50cal, do you do the classic "feel lucky punk" before you blast their brains out ?


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Psycho^ Milkman wrote:
Nice looking rifle, but it is a bit 'european' sport rifle looking going via the stock.

It is not the Kick that worries me, it is the .50cal SIZE, if i were to shoot a squirrel with that the would be nothing left to have as a trophy, a bag or red goo just does not look the same now does it :)

Anyway im a 12 gauge man myself, you can 'spray and prey' and sometimes the pidgeons fall out of the sky :)


50cal, do you do the classic "feel lucky punk" before you blast their brains out ?


LOL Nah... only in my thoughts. I try very hard to make the kill with 1 shot. I have a 30-30 as well with a scope mounted on it. I also have a 12 guage as well. I'm a slug man when the brush is pretty thick. This year I'm taking up archery. I'll be pretty busy this fall starting in October. In New Hampshire we can take 2 Deer with a Bow. I'm also hunting Coyotes all year round. I have a mate of mine that uses a 10 guage! I asked him if he has to ground mount that thing before he touches it off. H dropped a black bear with it using Buck Shot! :shock: :D

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Did you read up on that TC? I can get any barrel for whatever caliber and wether rifle or shot gun. I can even convert it into a pistol! I picked that up for $400.00 US.

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Psycho^ Milkman wrote:
It is not the Kick that worries me, it is the .50cal SIZE, if i were to shoot a squirrel with that the would be nothing left to have as a trophy, a bag or red goo just does not look the same now does it :)


Of course, now I'm picturing Milky's drawing room with mounted squirrel heads on the wall. Said in great-white-hunter accent: "Ah! That one there is a rare tufted blue squirrel I bagged in the Azores. Did I ever tell you the story of the brown trout herders of Ponta Delgada...?"

I should mention that the 'Brown Bess' which was used by Britannia for decades was .75 cal. That's a 3/4 inch diameter blob of lead. Of course it was meant for shooting people, not squirrels :lol:

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Look, a .75 hundreds of years ago was needed to take down those darned insurgents, they were also good for killing injuns. It is a bit like firing a hellfire missle from a drone to take out one man really, a bit of 'overkill' but it works and sends out the message "dont f*** with us or else".

I blame Braddock, but then again lasting 6 or 7 years in a war with only a garrison force and not an army was not to shibby, and i know if we had cavelry we could have 'owned' Washington, he was not that good, it was the other american general i cant remember the name of who stuck out as 'bloody good' in the books i have read.


All in all, the 'colonial wars' or what you would call the war of independace was just good practice for out Napolionic wars in Europe. It taught us things that we learnt from and adapted too :) *cough* General Rose of the Brittish army did predict what needs doing in Iraq, and it has only taken 5 years for the American Generals to say "you know we should have done this" :)

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and Britain has a lot of hindsight to learn from. When Sadaam's army/people were disbanded and outlawed i thought "utho big mistake".


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Washington was more of a gentleman farmer than a tactician. He had tenacity I'll give him that and was a born leader but as a military commander he was so-so. I think you're thinking of Benedict Arnold who was a brilliant commander. He just had this little loyalty problem, or not, depending on which side of the pond you're sitting on :)

Yeah the whole Iraq thing is an embarrassment and travesty. I said it before they went in and I'm saying it now: you can't win a war without a plan for the peace. Unfortunately, sadly, I was vindicated. Sometimes I hate it when I'm right.

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I just love how we go from Big game hunting to war and peace in 1 forum. :lol Its never a dull moment. :)
JD:
"Of course, now I'm picturing Milky's drawing room with mounted squirrel heads on the wall. Said in great-white-hunter accent: "Ah! That one there is a rare tufted blue squirrel I bagged in the Azores. Did I ever tell you the story of the brown trout herders of Ponta Delgada...?"

:lol: :lol: Sounds like Commander McBragg from the old Tennesse Tuxedo Cartoons. :lol: :lol:
There are still quite alot of enthusiasts that use the flintlock style rifle to hunt. Me where I'm left handed I would think the flash would mess up my eyes.

My 2 cents for the Iraq thing..... well Losing the momentum just after capturing Saddam. I knew right off that the members of the Republican Guard were going to resort to underhanded tactics. I see where they (in a naive way) they are fighting for there land. on the other hand I can see that it has been lawlessness and the excuse for cold blooded murder. I'm tired of the whole mess.

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Quill wrote:
:lol: :lol: Sounds like Commander McBragg from the old Tennesse Tuxedo Cartoons. :lol: :lol:


That's EXACTLY what I was going for. Good catch!

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Nope gentlemen, the person i have in my mind is neither of them, and i hate it when you know who you are thinking of but cant name. I think he was one of the people who signed the declaration of independance if that helps throw a few more names about.



Republican Guard is just a cover story and myth to confuse the populus. Sure take control of Iraq and kick the Republican Guard into touch, but getting shot of ALL the army AND anyone connected to the Baath party was a big mistake that the US is just realising, and said should not happen by General Rose 5 years ago based on when the UK took control of Iraq years ago. We did not have too much of a problem, because we left their army mainly intact, and we let them fight between themselves, we let the savages police the savages, like we did with India and Afghanistan the previous centuries.

If you have a small army, why be the target of everyones hate and bullets when you can get someone else to take the flak. We are there now, i did not want it to happen as Saadam was contained and causing no real problem, but 'we' must stay and finish the job we started and i hate the UK press calling for ALL of our troops to be withdrawn. "You dont start something and leave half way through" is my moto, and i can see Iraq still being a problem in 10 years time unless something drastic is done, namely Nuking Iran and a few individuals like that Cleric bloke Saddar. As the saying goes "There cannot be peace without freedom" and until this world is free, there wont be any peace.


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Psycho^ Milkman wrote:
"You dont start something and leave half way through" is my moto, and i can see Iraq still being a problem in 10 years time unless something drastic is done, namely Nuking Iran and a few individuals like that Cleric bloke Saddar. As the saying goes "There cannot be peace without freedom" and until this world is free, there wont be any peace.


Well said. I don't see any other way as well. I guess I'm so disgusted with the whole affair, It's hard even to pay attention to it. I go into houses sometimes when people have loved ones proudly dispalyed, and in some cases, as a shrine. In some cases, I see pics of mass destruction and bodies from soldiers coming back from the front. There is an occasional trophy.....***Shuddering***

As far as names...ummmm Aybe this would help....

The 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence included two future presidents, three vice presidents, and ten members of the United States Congress. Below are the names of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence:

[Column 1]
Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

[Column 2]
North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

[Column 3]
Massachusetts: John Hancock
Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

[Column 4]
Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

[Column 5]
New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

[Column 6]
New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple
Massachusetts: Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New Hampshire: Matthew Thornton

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Psycho^ Milkman wrote:
"You dont start something and leave half way through" is my moto, and i can see Iraq still being a problem in 10 years time unless something drastic is done, namely Nuking Iran and a few individuals like that Cleric bloke Saddar. As the saying goes "There cannot be peace without freedom" and until this world is free, there wont be any peace.


I agree with you concerning seeing it to the other end. We did make our bed and have to sleep in it. It's hard sometimes to go into people's houses and fix or install cable and I see pictures of loved ones lost and sometime in the form of shrine. Then there are soldiers returning from the front with devastating pictures and in some cases....trophies.....*shuddering*

In the names dept maybe this will help?

The 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence included two future presidents, three vice presidents, and ten members of the United States Congress. Below are the names of the men who signed the Declaration of Independence:

[Column 1]
Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

[Column 2]
North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

[Column 3]
Massachusetts: John Hancock
Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

[Column 4]
Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

[Column 5]
New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

[Column 6]
New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple
Massachusetts: Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New Hampshire: Matthew Thornton

See any the ring a bell?

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